Comments on: Another Response to Constructive Feedback from Peter Murray-Rust… http://www.chemspider.com/blog/another-response-to-constructive-feedback-from-peter-murray-rust.html Building Community for Chemists Fri, 10 Feb 2012 11:07:05 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.2 By: Stan Young http://www.chemspider.com/blog/another-response-to-constructive-feedback-from-peter-murray-rust.html/comment-page-1#comment-3691 Stan Young Thu, 18 Oct 2007 02:26:18 +0000 http://www.chemspider.com/blog/?p=207#comment-3691 Let me take this in a completely different direction; let's have some tolerance all across the financial spectrum. The high-profit chemistry people, drug companies, are for profit. I wish them well as, by making money, they bring useful drugs to market. Thank you, Adam Smith. Or check out some rather dense reading, Hayek, The Road to Serfdom. Central planning and only one way to deliver a service is a trap that most typically leads to problems. Arguably government regulatory bodies are a significant drag on getting useful drug products to market. Back to chemical information: I do not want anyone to have a monopoly, ACS, PubChem, ChemSpider, or anyone else, no matter how smart or well-intended. I do not think it is constructive to criticize those that are for profit. Financial rewards are one way for a society to send effective signals to those willing to work. Free or open works for me, a chemistry enthusiast. Let me take this in a completely different direction; let’s have some tolerance all across the financial spectrum. The high-profit chemistry people, drug companies, are for profit. I wish them well as, by making money, they bring useful drugs to market. Thank you, Adam Smith. Or check out some rather dense reading, Hayek, The Road to Serfdom. Central planning and only one way to deliver a service is a trap that most typically leads to problems. Arguably government regulatory bodies are a significant drag on getting useful drug products to market. Back to chemical information: I do not want anyone to have a monopoly, ACS, PubChem, ChemSpider, or anyone else, no matter how smart or well-intended. I do not think it is constructive to criticize those that are for profit. Financial rewards are one way for a society to send effective signals to those willing to work. Free or open works for me, a chemistry enthusiast.

]]> By: Antony Williams http://www.chemspider.com/blog/another-response-to-constructive-feedback-from-peter-murray-rust.html/comment-page-1#comment-3675 Antony Williams Wed, 17 Oct 2007 14:32:57 +0000 http://www.chemspider.com/blog/?p=207#comment-3675 Egon, We are presently deduplicating the database after the latest depositions. When we prepare the data for submission to PubChem then we will provide you the InChI list. Egon, We are presently deduplicating the database after the latest depositions. When we prepare the data for submission to PubChem then we will provide you the InChI list.

]]> By: Egon Willighagen http://www.chemspider.com/blog/another-response-to-constructive-feedback-from-peter-murray-rust.html/comment-page-1#comment-3639 Egon Willighagen Tue, 16 Oct 2007 20:00:06 +0000 http://www.chemspider.com/blog/?p=207#comment-3639 Please send me a copy of the InChI list. Please send me a copy of the InChI list.

]]> By: Jean-Claude Bradley http://www.chemspider.com/blog/another-response-to-constructive-feedback-from-peter-murray-rust.html/comment-page-1#comment-3637 Jean-Claude Bradley Tue, 16 Oct 2007 19:44:43 +0000 http://www.chemspider.com/blog/?p=207#comment-3637 There is a lot of confusion about terms and I think it is useful to have cleared up a lot of the issues in one detailed post. As you mention, I am one of the users of ChemSpider who has made use of spectrum uploading. I am very concerned with keeping our data open and would never have done so if I did not have confidence in ChemSpider. My primary concern is making sure our research can remain open in the sense that anyone can access and use the information. The fact that I don't have access to the source code for Google, Blogger, Wikispaces and other tools does not bother me in the way that I use those services. The same thing goes for ChemSpider. There is a lot of confusion about terms and I think it is useful to have cleared up a lot of the issues in one detailed post.

As you mention, I am one of the users of ChemSpider who has made use of spectrum uploading. I am very concerned with keeping our data open and would never have done so if I did not have confidence in ChemSpider.

My primary concern is making sure our research can remain open in the sense that anyone can access and use the information. The fact that I don’t have access to the source code for Google, Blogger, Wikispaces and other tools does not bother me in the way that I use those services. The same thing goes for ChemSpider.

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