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	<title>Comments on: Monkeys and Calcium Carbonate. Should ChemZoo Close its Gates?</title>
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		<title>By: ChemSpider Blog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Physical Property Predictions - Filtering Out Potential Problematic Data on ChemSpider&#8230;or is it NOT a problem?</title>
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		<dc:creator>ChemSpider Blog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Physical Property Predictions - Filtering Out Potential Problematic Data on ChemSpider&#8230;or is it NOT a problem?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 May 2007 03:37:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<dc:creator>ChemSpider Blog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Is ChemSpider Dangerous for Students?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 May 2007 05:32:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 11 May 2007 02:33:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: ChemSpider News &#187; Blog Archive &#187; The Calculation of Masses for Multicomponent Systems</title>
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		<dc:creator>ChemSpider News &#187; Blog Archive &#187; The Calculation of Masses for Multicomponent Systems</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 May 2007 02:16:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Antony Williams</title>
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		<dc:creator>Antony Williams</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 May 2007 03:50:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Egon, Thanks for the feedback. We had over 30 people testing the alpha version before we went live. Unfortunately the bias for all of us was on the challenging situations and with a clear bias to pharmaceutical type molecules. VERY unlikely that anyone ever searched a simply salt.  Big lesson there...simplicity over complexity. 

That said we will be leaving it at beta since we are 40% of the way through recalculating properties (4.3 million compounds) and will publish all newly calculated properties to resolve the multicomponent issue by end of week we hope (assuming no system failures). At that point issues with alpha/beta declarations are resolved for both you and PMR I believe. Any other issues to report? We welcome all feedback and encourage further responses! Thanks very much Egon.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Egon, Thanks for the feedback. We had over 30 people testing the alpha version before we went live. Unfortunately the bias for all of us was on the challenging situations and with a clear bias to pharmaceutical type molecules. VERY unlikely that anyone ever searched a simply salt.  Big lesson there&#8230;simplicity over complexity. </p>
<p>That said we will be leaving it at beta since we are 40% of the way through recalculating properties (4.3 million compounds) and will publish all newly calculated properties to resolve the multicomponent issue by end of week we hope (assuming no system failures). At that point issues with alpha/beta declarations are resolved for both you and PMR I believe. Any other issues to report? We welcome all feedback and encourage further responses! Thanks very much Egon.</p>
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		<title>By: ChemSpider Blog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Calcium Carbonate, logP predictions and Chris Lipinski</title>
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		<dc:creator>ChemSpider Blog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Calcium Carbonate, logP predictions and Chris Lipinski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 May 2007 00:57:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Egon Willighagen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Egon Willighagen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Apr 2007 20:52:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[A comment on the beta state. In software development, where the term &#039;beta&#039; possibly comes from, beta means software which has been carefully checked by the authors, fullfills as many quality assurance testing as possible, has no known bugs, or minor at most. Getting the MW wrong for every salt is scary... that sounds more like something in the alpha phase, which is more like a developers release and under developer testing.

Anyway, I highly recommend currently removing all salts from the visible database until the problems with salts are fixed. Especially for websites it does not hold that &#039;any advertisement is good advertisement&#039;.

PS. blog add the Chemical blogspace.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A comment on the beta state. In software development, where the term &#8216;beta&#8217; possibly comes from, beta means software which has been carefully checked by the authors, fullfills as many quality assurance testing as possible, has no known bugs, or minor at most. Getting the MW wrong for every salt is scary&#8230; that sounds more like something in the alpha phase, which is more like a developers release and under developer testing.</p>
<p>Anyway, I highly recommend currently removing all salts from the visible database until the problems with salts are fixed. Especially for websites it does not hold that &#8216;any advertisement is good advertisement&#8217;.</p>
<p>PS. blog add the Chemical blogspace.</p>
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