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	<title>Comments on: The InChI Key Has Been Unveiled &#8211; and now there are 17.2 MILLION of them online</title>
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		<title>By: Antony Williams</title>
		<link>http://www.chemspider.com/blog/the-inchi-has-is-unveiled-and-now-there-are-176-million-of-them-online.html/comment-page-1#comment-8821</link>
		<dc:creator>Antony Williams</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Dec 2007 01:32:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[the only way to convert from an InChIKey to a molfile is via a lookup. The InChIString can be converted though.

it IS a one way generation]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the only way to convert from an InChIKey to a molfile is via a lookup. The InChIString can be converted though.</p>
<p>it IS a one way generation</p>
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		<title>By: Henning Hermjakob</title>
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		<dc:creator>Henning Hermjakob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2007 11:10:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Is it possible to convert from an InChI key to a molfile? 
I know there&#039;s a method on http://www.chemspider.com/inchi.asmx which does that based on lookup of InChI keys in Chemspider. But I understand there is no direct algorithm to do this, as the InChI key generation is a one way transformation?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is it possible to convert from an InChI key to a molfile?<br />
I know there&#8217;s a method on <a href="http://www.chemspider.com/inchi.asmx" rel="nofollow">http://www.chemspider.com/inchi.asmx</a> which does that based on lookup of InChI keys in Chemspider. But I understand there is no direct algorithm to do this, as the InChI key generation is a one way transformation?</p>
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		<title>By: ChemSpider Blog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Access to ChemSpider Web Services Starts - Initial Exposure of InChI Related Services</title>
		<link>http://www.chemspider.com/blog/the-inchi-has-is-unveiled-and-now-there-are-176-million-of-them-online.html/comment-page-1#comment-2455</link>
		<dc:creator>ChemSpider Blog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Access to ChemSpider Web Services Starts - Initial Exposure of InChI Related Services</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Sep 2007 02:50:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] about that soon). As part of this general direction and because of the recent interest in InChI (1,2) we decided to expose a series of web services built on a combination of OpenBabel and the InChI [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] about that soon). As part of this general direction and because of the recent interest in InChI (1,2) we decided to expose a series of web services built on a combination of OpenBabel and the InChI [...]</p>
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		<title>By: ChemSpider Blog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Seth Godin&#8217;s Big Ideas, the InChiKey and Structure Searching the Web</title>
		<link>http://www.chemspider.com/blog/the-inchi-has-is-unveiled-and-now-there-are-176-million-of-them-online.html/comment-page-1#comment-2439</link>
		<dc:creator>ChemSpider Blog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Seth Godin&#8217;s Big Ideas, the InChiKey and Structure Searching the Web</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Sep 2007 15:45:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] A few years ago at a meeting in Washington I sat in on probably the earliest public forum discussion on the potential of InChI. As a result of excellent teamwork between NIST and IUPAC, and doing rather than just talking they got it done. There was some negativity expressed during the initial meetings about InChI but it did not distract the team from producing the prototype versions, initial release and now the latest update with InChIKey support. [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] A few years ago at a meeting in Washington I sat in on probably the earliest public forum discussion on the potential of InChI. As a result of excellent teamwork between NIST and IUPAC, and doing rather than just talking they got it done. There was some negativity expressed during the initial meetings about InChI but it did not distract the team from producing the prototype versions, initial release and now the latest update with InChIKey support. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Antony Williams</title>
		<link>http://www.chemspider.com/blog/the-inchi-has-is-unveiled-and-now-there-are-176-million-of-them-online.html/comment-page-1#comment-2417</link>
		<dc:creator>Antony Williams</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Sep 2007 04:16:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The InChiKey has now been linked up to perform direct searched on Google... see http://www.chemspider.com/news/?p=76]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The InChiKey has now been linked up to perform direct searched on Google&#8230; see <a href="http://www.chemspider.com/news/?p=76" rel="nofollow">http://www.chemspider.com/news/?p=76</a></p>
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		<title>By: Antony Williams</title>
		<link>http://www.chemspider.com/blog/the-inchi-has-is-unveiled-and-now-there-are-176-million-of-them-online.html/comment-page-1#comment-2320</link>
		<dc:creator>Antony Williams</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Sep 2007 02:52:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[We have now checked for clashes. We do not see ANY clashes at all - there are no two hash keys representing different structures. We DID find some non-deduplicated structures and these will be resolved shortly.

InChIKey is working as expected.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We have now checked for clashes. We do not see ANY clashes at all &#8211; there are no two hash keys representing different structures. We DID find some non-deduplicated structures and these will be resolved shortly.</p>
<p>InChIKey is working as expected.</p>
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		<title>By: ChemSpider News &#187; Blog Archive &#187; InCHI keys Now Available on ChemSpider</title>
		<link>http://www.chemspider.com/blog/the-inchi-has-is-unveiled-and-now-there-are-176-million-of-them-online.html/comment-page-1#comment-2319</link>
		<dc:creator>ChemSpider News &#187; Blog Archive &#187; InCHI keys Now Available on ChemSpider</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Sep 2007 02:33:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] InChI Key has recently been released in a beta form (version 1.02) and is discussed in more detail over on the ChemSpider Blog. As of today these InChIs have been made searchable on the ChemSpider [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] InChI Key has recently been released in a beta form (version 1.02) and is discussed in more detail over on the ChemSpider Blog. As of today these InChIs have been made searchable on the ChemSpider [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Joerg Kurt Wegner</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joerg Kurt Wegner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Sep 2007 22:47:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[A brief answer about the hashing problem was given on the CCL list today (eh, yesterday)
http://www.ccl.net/cgi-bin/ccl/message-new?2007+09+10+001

The paper I had in mind was written already in 1994 by WDI, the multi-lingual cheminformatics guru ;-)
Article (ig94) Ihlenfeldt, W. D. &amp; Gasteiger, J. Hash Codes for the Identification and Classification of Molecular Structure Elements J. Comp. Chem., 1994, 15, 793-813.

In general, any hashing identifier might run into collision problems, this is exactly a reason why they have to be designed. The purpose of hashing is a fast indexing and reducing the collitions, not necessarily to avoid them completely. In other words, creating globally optimal hashing identifiers is an optimization or statistics problem, which has to be solved by some smart computer scientists or mathematicians.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A brief answer about the hashing problem was given on the CCL list today (eh, yesterday)<br />
<a href="http://www.ccl.net/cgi-bin/ccl/message-new?2007+09+10+001" rel="nofollow">http://www.ccl.net/cgi-bin/ccl/message-new?2007+09+10+001</a></p>
<p>The paper I had in mind was written already in 1994 by WDI, the multi-lingual cheminformatics guru <img src='http://www.chemspider.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
Article (ig94) Ihlenfeldt, W. D. &amp; Gasteiger, J. Hash Codes for the Identification and Classification of Molecular Structure Elements J. Comp. Chem., 1994, 15, 793-813.</p>
<p>In general, any hashing identifier might run into collision problems, this is exactly a reason why they have to be designed. The purpose of hashing is a fast indexing and reducing the collitions, not necessarily to avoid them completely. In other words, creating globally optimal hashing identifiers is an optimization or statistics problem, which has to be solved by some smart computer scientists or mathematicians.</p>
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		<title>By: Antony Williams</title>
		<link>http://www.chemspider.com/blog/the-inchi-has-is-unveiled-and-now-there-are-176-million-of-them-online.html/comment-page-1#comment-2301</link>
		<dc:creator>Antony Williams</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Sep 2007 15:44:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[We have not yet checked for clashes but based on other experiences I doubt we will find them..and if we do it may be more indicative of lapses in our de-duplication procedures and therefore be very useful. We WILL do this work shortly and report back if we find any issues. 

Joerg - can you comment more on the &quot;statistical analysis&quot;?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We have not yet checked for clashes but based on other experiences I doubt we will find them..and if we do it may be more indicative of lapses in our de-duplication procedures and therefore be very useful. We WILL do this work shortly and report back if we find any issues. </p>
<p>Joerg &#8211; can you comment more on the &#8220;statistical analysis&#8221;?</p>
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		<title>By: Egon Willighagen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Egon Willighagen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Sep 2007 12:03:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[On the CCL list it is reported that the major open compound databases, like ZINC, PubChem, and no clashes have been found.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On the CCL list it is reported that the major open compound databases, like ZINC, PubChem, and no clashes have been found.</p>
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