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	<title>Comments on: Will the Correct Structure of Taxol Please Stand Up. Part 2.</title>
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		<title>By: Antony Williams</title>
		<link>http://www.chemspider.com/blog/will-the-correct-structure-of-taxol-please-stand-up-part-2.html/comment-page-1#comment-2879</link>
		<dc:creator>Antony Williams</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Sep 2007 14:22:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This info is from ChemExper:

RN:  	
33069-62-4
33069626 (but this is struckout online)
330696249 (but this is struckout online)

MF: 	
C47H51NO14
C47H51NO14ï¿½
NAME (Name is not a formula)
C46H51NO14 (why are there four formulas for one structure....and one is text &quot;Name&quot;

MW: 	
853.92024
841.90924

Why are there two Mw.?

I think the CAS number is 33069-62-4 as you comment. BUT, I don&#039;t have access to Scifinder to confirm. There are likely CAS people reading this blog so it would be great if they could clean it up for us please!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This info is from ChemExper:</p>
<p>RN:<br />
33069-62-4<br />
33069626 (but this is struckout online)<br />
330696249 (but this is struckout online)</p>
<p>MF:<br />
C47H51NO14<br />
C47H51NO14ï¿½<br />
NAME (Name is not a formula)<br />
C46H51NO14 (why are there four formulas for one structure&#8230;.and one is text &#8220;Name&#8221;</p>
<p>MW:<br />
853.92024<br />
841.90924</p>
<p>Why are there two Mw.?</p>
<p>I think the CAS number is 33069-62-4 as you comment. BUT, I don&#8217;t have access to Scifinder to confirm. There are likely CAS people reading this blog so it would be great if they could clean it up for us please!</p>
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		<title>By: M Karthikeyan</title>
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		<dc:creator>M Karthikeyan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Sep 2007 13:14:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the structure is from chemexper.. for the CAS no. (is CAS No right? if CAS no. right why it is cited for palitaxol in chemexper.. chemexper wrong? ) require some time to clarify..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the structure is from chemexper.. for the CAS no. (is CAS No right? if CAS no. right why it is cited for palitaxol in chemexper.. chemexper wrong? ) require some time to clarify..</p>
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		<title>By: Antony Williams</title>
		<link>http://www.chemspider.com/blog/will-the-correct-structure-of-taxol-please-stand-up-part-2.html/comment-page-1#comment-2870</link>
		<dc:creator>Antony Williams</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Sep 2007 04:40:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I looked at: http://chemxtreme.blogspot.com/ and the link posted there http://www.chemexper.com/chemicals/supplier/cas/33069-62-4.html

Problems...the molecule taxol has the name S-Isoserine? Hmmm... No

One of the formulae, there are three, is listed as C46H51NO14. Hmmm...No

The name listed is very confusing for me: [2aR-[2aa,4b,4ab,6a,9a(aR,bS),11a,12a,12aa,12ba]]-b-(Benzoylamino)-a-hydroxy-6,12b-bis(acetyloxy)-12-(benzoyloxy)-2a,3,4,4a,5,6,9,10,11,12,12,12b-dodecahydro-4,11-dihydroxy-4a,8,13,13-tetramethyl-5-oxo-7,11-methano-1H-cyclodeca[3,4]benz[1,2-b]oxet-9-yl

The InCHI you listed (InChI=1/C47H51NO14/c1-25-31(60-43(56)36(52)35(28-16-10-7-11-17-28)48-41(54)29-18-12-8-13-19-29)23-47(57)40(61-42(55)30-20-14-9-15-21-30)38-45(6,32(51)22-33-46(38,24-58-33)62-27(3)50)39(53)37(59-26(2)49)34(25)44(47,4)5/h7-21,31-33,35-38,40,51-52,57H,22-24H2,1-6H3,(H,48,54)/t31-,32-,33+,35-,36+,37+,38-,40-,45+,46-,47+/m0/s1)

does connect with the ChemSPider record http://www.chemspider.com/RecordView.aspx?id=16739643

Where did you get THIS SMILES? &quot;[H][C@]12[C@H](OC(=O)C3=CC=CC=C3)[C@]4(O)C[C@H](OC(=O)[C@H](O)[C@@H](NC(=O)C5=CC=CC=C5)C6=CC=CC=C6)C(C)=C([C@@H](OC(C)=O)C(=O)[C@]1(C)[C@@H](O)C[C@H]7OC[C@@]27OC(C)=O)C4(C)C
&quot; It appears to be consistent with what I think taxol is...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I looked at: <a href="http://chemxtreme.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow">http://chemxtreme.blogspot.com/</a> and the link posted there <a href="http://www.chemexper.com/chemicals/supplier/cas/33069-62-4.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.chemexper.com/chemicals/supplier/cas/33069-62-4.html</a></p>
<p>Problems&#8230;the molecule taxol has the name S-Isoserine? Hmmm&#8230; No</p>
<p>One of the formulae, there are three, is listed as C46H51NO14. Hmmm&#8230;No</p>
<p>The name listed is very confusing for me: [2aR-[2aa,4b,4ab,6a,9a(aR,bS),11a,12a,12aa,12ba]]-b-(Benzoylamino)-a-hydroxy-6,12b-bis(acetyloxy)-12-(benzoyloxy)-2a,3,4,4a,5,6,9,10,11,12,12,12b-dodecahydro-4,11-dihydroxy-4a,8,13,13-tetramethyl-5-oxo-7,11-methano-1H-cyclodeca[3,4]benz[1,2-b]oxet-9-yl</p>
<p>The InCHI you listed (InChI=1/C47H51NO14/c1-25-31(60-43(56)36(52)35(28-16-10-7-11-17-28)48-41(54)29-18-12-8-13-19-29)23-47(57)40(61-42(55)30-20-14-9-15-21-30)38-45(6,32(51)22-33-46(38,24-58-33)62-27(3)50)39(53)37(59-26(2)49)34(25)44(47,4)5/h7-21,31-33,35-38,40,51-52,57H,22-24H2,1-6H3,(H,48,54)/t31-,32-,33+,35-,36+,37+,38-,40-,45+,46-,47+/m0/s1)</p>
<p>does connect with the ChemSPider record <a href="http://www.chemspider.com/RecordView.aspx?id=16739643" rel="nofollow">http://www.chemspider.com/RecordView.aspx?id=16739643</a></p>
<p>Where did you get THIS SMILES? &#8220;[H][C@]12[C@H](OC(=O)C3=CC=CC=C3)[C@]4(O)C[C@H](OC(=O)[C@H](O)[C@@H](NC(=O)C5=CC=CC=C5)C6=CC=CC=C6)C(C)=C([C@@H](OC(C)=O)C(=O)[C@]1(C)[C@@H](O)C[C@H]7OC[C@@]27OC(C)=O)C4(C)C<br />
&#8221; It appears to be consistent with what I think taxol is&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: M Karthikeyan</title>
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		<dc:creator>M Karthikeyan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Sep 2007 02:44:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: M Karthikeyan</title>
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		<dc:creator>M Karthikeyan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Sep 2007 02:44:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Structure image: chemxtreme.blogspot.com</description>
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		<title>By: M Karthikeyan</title>
		<link>http://www.chemspider.com/blog/will-the-correct-structure-of-taxol-please-stand-up-part-2.html/comment-page-1#comment-2864</link>
		<dc:creator>M Karthikeyan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Sep 2007 02:42:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>chemical structure:
http://chemxtreme.blogspot.com/2007/09/taxol-structure.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>chemical structure:<br />
<a href="http://chemxtreme.blogspot.com/2007/09/taxol-structure.html" rel="nofollow">http://chemxtreme.blogspot.com/2007/09/taxol-structure.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: M Karthikeyan</title>
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		<dc:creator>M Karthikeyan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Sep 2007 02:38:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: M Karthikeyan</title>
		<link>http://www.chemspider.com/blog/will-the-correct-structure-of-taxol-please-stand-up-part-2.html/comment-page-1#comment-2862</link>
		<dc:creator>M Karthikeyan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Sep 2007 02:36:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I posted the chemical structure (generated from smiles) here..

http://chemxtreme.blogspot.com/2007/09/taxol-structure.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I posted the chemical structure (generated from smiles) here..</p>
<p><a href="http://chemxtreme.blogspot.com/2007/09/taxol-structure.html" rel="nofollow">http://chemxtreme.blogspot.com/2007/09/taxol-structure.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: M Karthikeyan</title>
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		<dc:creator>M Karthikeyan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Sep 2007 02:26:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>TAXOL: 
SMILES

[H][C@]12[C@H](OC(=O)C3=CC=CC=C3)[C@]4(O)C[C@H](OC(=O)[C@H](O)[C@@H](NC(=O)C5=CC=CC=C5)C6=CC=CC=C6)C(C)=C([C@@H](OC(C)=O)C(=O)[C@]1(C)[C@@H](O)C[C@H]7OC[C@@]27OC(C)=O)C4(C)C

Chemical Name: (Traditional and &#039;authentic&#039;)

Benzenepropanoic acid, b-(benzoylamino)-a-hydroxy-, (2aR,4S,4aS,6R,9S,11S,12S,12aR,12bS)-6,12b-bis(acetyloxy)-12-(benzoyloxy)-2a,3,4,4a,5,6,9,10,11,12,12a,12b-dodecahydro-4,11-dihydroxy-4a,8,13,13-tetramethyl-5-oxo-7,11-methano-1H-cyclodeca[3,4]benz[1,2-b]oxet-9-yl ester, (aR,bS)-

Name from web: 

http://www.chemexper.com/chemicals/supplier/cas/33069-62-4.html

S-Isoserine [2aR-[2aa,4b,4ab,6a,9a(aR,bS),11a,12a,12aa,12ba]]-b-(Benzoylamino)-a-hydroxy-6,12b-bis(acetyloxy)-12-(benzoyloxy)-2a,3,4,4a,5,6,9,10,11,12,12,12b-dodecahydro-4,11-dihydroxy-4a,8,13,13-tetramethyl-5-oxo-7,11-methano-1H-cyclodeca[3,4]benz[1,2-b]oxet-9-yl 



&quot;is there a way to post the image here.. created from the above smiles using Jchem?&quot;</description>
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SMILES</p>
<p>[H][C@]12[C@H](OC(=O)C3=CC=CC=C3)[C@]4(O)C[C@H](OC(=O)[C@H](O)[C@@H](NC(=O)C5=CC=CC=C5)C6=CC=CC=C6)C(C)=C([C@@H](OC(C)=O)C(=O)[C@]1(C)[C@@H](O)C[C@H]7OC[C@@]27OC(C)=O)C4(C)C</p>
<p>Chemical Name: (Traditional and &#8216;authentic&#8217;)</p>
<p>Benzenepropanoic acid, b-(benzoylamino)-a-hydroxy-, (2aR,4S,4aS,6R,9S,11S,12S,12aR,12bS)-6,12b-bis(acetyloxy)-12-(benzoyloxy)-2a,3,4,4a,5,6,9,10,11,12,12a,12b-dodecahydro-4,11-dihydroxy-4a,8,13,13-tetramethyl-5-oxo-7,11-methano-1H-cyclodeca[3,4]benz[1,2-b]oxet-9-yl ester, (aR,bS)-</p>
<p>Name from web: </p>
<p><a href="http://www.chemexper.com/chemicals/supplier/cas/33069-62-4.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.chemexper.com/chemicals/supplier/cas/33069-62-4.html</a></p>
<p>S-Isoserine [2aR-[2aa,4b,4ab,6a,9a(aR,bS),11a,12a,12aa,12ba]]-b-(Benzoylamino)-a-hydroxy-6,12b-bis(acetyloxy)-12-(benzoyloxy)-2a,3,4,4a,5,6,9,10,11,12,12,12b-dodecahydro-4,11-dihydroxy-4a,8,13,13-tetramethyl-5-oxo-7,11-methano-1H-cyclodeca[3,4]benz[1,2-b]oxet-9-yl </p>
<p>&#8220;is there a way to post the image here.. created from the above smiles using Jchem?&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Antony Williams</title>
		<link>http://www.chemspider.com/blog/will-the-correct-structure-of-taxol-please-stand-up-part-2.html/comment-page-1#comment-2837</link>
		<dc:creator>Antony Williams</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Sep 2007 00:40:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fellow wikipedian....I BELIEVE you are correct. My research today suggests that the structure in Wikipedia shown in the DrugBox IS the correct one. I believe the structure on Drugbank is the correct one (WP and Drugbank do match). It is the identified structure on PubChem that is in error so the link to that record in PubChem should be removed. That&#039;s TWO votes (yours and mine)...anybody else?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fellow wikipedian&#8230;.I BELIEVE you are correct. My research today suggests that the structure in Wikipedia shown in the DrugBox IS the correct one. I believe the structure on Drugbank is the correct one (WP and Drugbank do match). It is the identified structure on PubChem that is in error so the link to that record in PubChem should be removed. That&#8217;s TWO votes (yours and mine)&#8230;anybody else?</p>
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