Comments on: OpenURL http://www.chemspider.com/open-chemistry-web/openurl.html The Project: Open and Integrated Structure and Text Search Sun, 19 Apr 2009 16:13:14 +0100 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: will http://www.chemspider.com/open-chemistry-web/openurl.html/comment-page-1#comment-333 will Sun, 03 Feb 2008 10:35:08 +0000 http://www.chemspider.com/open-chemistry-web/openurl.html#comment-333 If the redirect were the only issue I would agree. "There is no charge for most libraries to get a CrossRef account to retrieve DOIs or metadata" - http://crossref.org/03libraries/index.html So some libraries will be charged then. Libraries would have zero metadata retrieval costs if OpenURL/similar system were implemented. Charging for metadata (zero value on its own) is what is really silly. If the redirect were the only issue I would agree.

“There is no charge for most libraries to get a CrossRef account to retrieve DOIs or metadata” – http://crossref.org/03libraries/index.html

So some libraries will be charged then. Libraries would have zero metadata retrieval costs if OpenURL/similar system were implemented. Charging for metadata (zero value on its own) is what is really silly.

]]> By: Mitch http://www.chemspider.com/open-chemistry-web/openurl.html/comment-page-1#comment-332 Mitch Sun, 03 Feb 2008 09:15:43 +0000 http://www.chemspider.com/open-chemistry-web/openurl.html#comment-332 That's just being silly. On many levels a redirect is much more useful than a hard url. I'm not even that old, and I've lived through enough url modifications from publishers to be completely turned off hard URLs. Hell, http://blog.chemicalforums.com now exits as a redirect. ;) Mitch That’s just being silly. On many levels a redirect is much more useful than a hard url. I’m not even that old, and I’ve lived through enough url modifications from publishers to be completely turned off hard URLs. Hell, http://blog.chemicalforums.com now exits as a redirect. ;)

Mitch

]]> By: David Bradley http://www.chemspider.com/open-chemistry-web/openurl.html/comment-page-1#comment-305 David Bradley Tue, 29 Jan 2008 10:23:51 +0000 http://www.chemspider.com/open-chemistry-web/openurl.html#comment-305 I think this concept could have legs, but maybe we could escape the proprietary closed nature of DOI altogether and create a PaperID that is initiated by the author using standards. I just posted about <a href="http://www.chemspy.com/chemistry-news/paperid-an-open-source-identifier-for-research-papers.html" rel="nofollow">Open Source PaperID</a> idea on Chemspy. db I think this concept could have legs, but maybe we could escape the proprietary closed nature of DOI altogether and create a PaperID that is initiated by the author using standards. I just posted about Open Source PaperID idea on Chemspy.

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]]> By: baoilleach http://www.chemspider.com/open-chemistry-web/openurl.html/comment-page-1#comment-304 baoilleach Tue, 29 Jan 2008 08:18:17 +0000 http://www.chemspider.com/open-chemistry-web/openurl.html#comment-304 Just to note that OpenURL (unlike the OpenRef system in my <a href="http://baoilleach.blogspot.com/2008/01/doi-or-doh-proposal-for-restful-unique.html" rel="nofollow">blog post</a> or indeed the DOI) is not unique for a particular publication; several different OpenURLs can point to the same paper. This may make it difficult to connect information relating to the same publication by inspecting a bookmarked OpenURL. The OpenURL really describes an agreed system for key-value pairs to describe publication metadata, as well as to describe the context of a request for a paper. Just to note that OpenURL (unlike the OpenRef system in my blog post or indeed the DOI) is not unique for a particular publication; several different OpenURLs can point to the same paper. This may make it difficult to connect information relating to the same publication by inspecting a bookmarked OpenURL. The OpenURL really describes an agreed system for key-value pairs to describe publication metadata, as well as to describe the context of a request for a paper.

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