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	<title>Comments on: Real Open Access</title>
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		<title>By: will</title>
		<link>http://www.chemspider.com/open-chemistry-web/real-open-access.html/comment-page-1#comment-114</link>
		<dc:creator>will</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2007 17:25:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not trying to say that the Open Access movement is not responsible for many good changes. Obviously if a service is marketed as free or open and you still have to pay I agree that deserves to be criticised. But we see many services that do provide data for free facing scathing criticism for not being open and I just think that&#039;s crazy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not trying to say that the Open Access movement is not responsible for many good changes. Obviously if a service is marketed as free or open and you still have to pay I agree that deserves to be criticised. But we see many services that do provide data for free facing scathing criticism for not being open and I just think that&#8217;s crazy.</p>
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		<title>By: baoilleach</title>
		<link>http://www.chemspider.com/open-chemistry-web/real-open-access.html/comment-page-1#comment-112</link>
		<dc:creator>baoilleach</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2007 10:27:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So where was the free full-text access before the Open Access movement?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So where was the free full-text access before the Open Access movement?</p>
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		<title>By: will</title>
		<link>http://www.chemspider.com/open-chemistry-web/real-open-access.html/comment-page-1#comment-109</link>
		<dc:creator>will</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Nov 2007 12:55:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi, I am no expert but you can try these:

http://dx.doi.org/10.1039/b202689a (then under Free Access click &quot;PDF&quot; to avoid paying for the article)

http://www.ijrr.com/browse.php?a_code=A-10-1-198&amp;slc_lang=en&amp;sid=1 (click full text PDF at the bottom)

http://www.jstage.jst.go.jp/search/jwet?pubs=&amp;pube=&amp;d1=ti&amp;dp1=&amp;dif2=and&amp;d2=au&amp;dp2=&amp;dif3=and&amp;d3=ab&amp;dp3=&amp;dif4=and&amp;d4=ke&amp;dp4=&amp;dif5=and&amp;d5=te&amp;dp5=irradiation&amp;dif6=and&amp;d6=te&amp;dp6=&amp;alang=all&amp;rev=all&amp;pl=20&amp;search=Search (these should all be free PDFs)

Good luck</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi, I am no expert but you can try these:</p>
<p><a href="http://dx.doi.org/10.1039/b202689a" rel="nofollow">http://dx.doi.org/10.1039/b202689a</a> (then under Free Access click &#8220;PDF&#8221; to avoid paying for the article)</p>
<p><a href="http://www.ijrr.com/browse.php?a_code=A-10-1-198&#038;slc_lang=en&#038;sid=1" rel="nofollow">http://www.ijrr.com/browse.php?a_code=A-10-1-198&#038;slc_lang=en&#038;sid=1</a> (click full text PDF at the bottom)</p>
<p><a href="http://www.jstage.jst.go.jp/search/jwet?pubs=&#038;pube=&#038;d1=ti&#038;dp1=&#038;dif2=and&#038;d2=au&#038;dp2=&#038;dif3=and&#038;d3=ab&#038;dp3=&#038;dif4=and&#038;d4=ke&#038;dp4=&#038;dif5=and&#038;d5=te&#038;dp5=irradiation&#038;dif6=and&#038;d6=te&#038;dp6=&#038;alang=all&#038;rev=all&#038;pl=20&#038;search=Search" rel="nofollow">http://www.jstage.jst.go.jp/search/jwet?pubs=&#038;pube=&#038;d1=ti&#038;dp1=&#038;dif2=and&#038;d2=au&#038;dp2=&#038;dif3=and&#038;d3=ab&#038;dp3=&#038;dif4=and&#038;d4=ke&#038;dp4=&#038;dif5=and&#038;d5=te&#038;dp5=irradiation&#038;dif6=and&#038;d6=te&#038;dp6=&#038;alang=all&#038;rev=all&#038;pl=20&#038;search=Search</a> (these should all be free PDFs)</p>
<p>Good luck</p>
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		<title>By: sara</title>
		<link>http://www.chemspider.com/open-chemistry-web/real-open-access.html/comment-page-1#comment-108</link>
		<dc:creator>sara</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Nov 2007 08:47:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>iam master student making my first steps in my own master progect 
i need information about water treatment by radiation
or water treatment by gamma ray
or water treatment by irradiation
 or water treatment by electron beam</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>iam master student making my first steps in my own master progect<br />
i need information about water treatment by radiation<br />
or water treatment by gamma ray<br />
or water treatment by irradiation<br />
 or water treatment by electron beam</p>
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		<title>By: ChemSpiderMan</title>
		<link>http://www.chemspider.com/open-chemistry-web/real-open-access.html/comment-page-1#comment-107</link>
		<dc:creator>ChemSpiderMan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Nov 2007 01:27:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What you&#039;ve hit on here is in alignment with my own views regarding providing solutions to problems for scientists. Over the past few months there have been a lot of commentaries regarding ChemSpider not being Open Access and of late that the data are not Open Data. There have been statements that it should be closed down because it is not built on Open Source and that the quality was far from perfect. Meanwhile, despite the ongoing negativity, the number of users continues to grow, the number of daily transactions is increasing, the capabilities of the APIs have been expanded to allow others to connect to us should they wish, the number of depositors increases and uses are getting access to more capabilities without charge.  This is Free Access and, in my opinion, just as important as Open Access. I&#039;m proud that we are doing what we are doing...and we are being acknowledged for it. While there have been naysayers we are happy to listen to their comments, review for areas we can improve and go to work. Keep up your efforts and stay true to vision of providing a valuable service. It&#039;s VALID!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What you&#8217;ve hit on here is in alignment with my own views regarding providing solutions to problems for scientists. Over the past few months there have been a lot of commentaries regarding ChemSpider not being Open Access and of late that the data are not Open Data. There have been statements that it should be closed down because it is not built on Open Source and that the quality was far from perfect. Meanwhile, despite the ongoing negativity, the number of users continues to grow, the number of daily transactions is increasing, the capabilities of the APIs have been expanded to allow others to connect to us should they wish, the number of depositors increases and uses are getting access to more capabilities without charge.  This is Free Access and, in my opinion, just as important as Open Access. I&#8217;m proud that we are doing what we are doing&#8230;and we are being acknowledged for it. While there have been naysayers we are happy to listen to their comments, review for areas we can improve and go to work. Keep up your efforts and stay true to vision of providing a valuable service. It&#8217;s VALID!</p>
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